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Former President Donald Trump claimed President Joe Biden is being controlled by "very evil forces" with a "sick ideology" during an interview with television psychologist Dr. Phil McGraw that aired Thursday (June 6) night.
Trump, 77, the presumptive Republican nominee for the 2024 presidential election, made the claim after Dr. Phil asked him about the "darkest" moments he's faced following his criminal conviction and other ongoing legal battles.
“You have to be very strong. You’re fighting very evil forces and they’re very smart forces,” Trump said. “There are people that control Biden. Totally true. I think I know who they are largely. But there are people that control him. They’re very smart, very energetic. Possibly they’re real believers, what their sick ideology is."
“But you have to be smart and you have to have confidence,” he added.
Trump took several jabs at Biden, 82, during the hour-long interview, though didn't elaborate on who he believed the controlling forces were. The former president also insisted that "revenge can be justified" when Dr. Phil suggested he wouldn't "have time to get even" with his enemies if elected for a second term.
“The word revenge is a very strong word but maybe we’ll have revenge through success," Trump said. “Revenge does take time, I will say that. And sometimes revenge can be justified, Phil. I have to be honest. Sometimes it can.”